Bek talks to a new member of Team Sirius Tri Club about becoming a triathlete, her inspiration and the challenges she faced
The Siri & Bek Show is hosted by Siri Lindley & Rebekah Keat
Podcast length: 52′ 54″
On this week’s episode Bek holds the fort while Siri is away and is joined by a new member of Team Sirius Tri Club Maricarmen Farias to talk about how she discovered triathlon was her sport. Maricarmen is coached by Siri at Team Sirius Tri Club. She tells the story of how she grew up in Mexico and the sports she played there, moving to to the US and going to school and being intrigued by triathlon. Maricarmen has degrees in bilingual education and speech therapy and is also qualified as a nutritionist. She hosts Sound Bites on WiSP Sports Radio – a new show about holistic living and healthy nutrition for everyone.
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[00:00:12] Welcome to the Siri & Beck Show on WiSP Sports Radio episode six. I’m Rebekah Keat and at WiSP Sports we believe that women in sport deserve equal coverage. The Siri & Beck show is where we share our life experiences because sport is a vehicle through which we have found our true selves and we hope to inspire you guys to do the same.
[00:00:40] Siri is away this week so I have a guest on the show, a very good friend of ours and fellow Team Sirius Tri Club member Maricarmen Farias. Welcome MC. So we’re going to be talking about how we met why she chose Team Sirius Tri Club and we’re going to hear about how it changed her life and transformed her and affected her goals and her dreams. And welcome to the show Maricarmen or better known as MC.
[00:01:05] Thank you so much for having me.
[00:01:07] So MC we’ve only know each other for really a short period of time. It’s been about how many months now?
[00:01:13] I joined the team in August last year.
[00:01:17] Gosh it feels like forever.
[00:01:18] So this is really crazy because there’s people that you made in your life and you feel like you’ve met them before you feel like they’ve been in your life for forever. And Maricarmen is definitely one of these people and both Siri I just feel so blessed to have her in our lives and I actually remember we’ll talk about this more later. I remember the first day you came I was like who has this crazy girl I love this girl. Tell us a little bit about you. Because you’re not from the US.
[00:01:45] No I am not. So before I tell you a little bit about myself I just want to say that I am so grateful to be here today. And like seriously twenty or ten years back I would have never imagined I would have been sitting next to someone so amazing. And I’m gonna just pretend Siri is here because I know she’s here with her heart. But just knowing that you know I am here sitting with some amazing people who have not only accomplished personal goals that make them amazing but have also contributed in making this world a better place. You guys have had an impact in so many people’s lives and just surrounding myself with you guys already makes me so excited so much of a better person. And I’m just so grateful to be here today.
[00:02:34] Well thank you MC, I’ll pay you later for that plug. Thank you so much that means the world to us. And we just seemed to attract like, we do seem to attract these incredible people just like you and I just love the friendships we have made within Team Sirius Tri Club. And I feel like their friendships will have forever. So back to you. So when did you move to the U.S. because I know you know you work here permanently. You’re here with your husband now.
[00:02:56] Yes that is right. I am actually originally from Mexico. Very small town called Isenegger as it’s in the border with Texas. And I moved to this state when I was 16 years old. Wow. On your own. Oh yeah. Oh my. Oh I lived in Austin, Texas for eight years that’s where I went to college. And what did you study. I went to school. I actually have two degrees one when bilingual education and the other in speech therapy.
[00:03:25] Wow. Amazing. So you must think of my speech and think wow she really needs to work on articulating her words. My mom always says you sound like a gutter child like speak properly pronounce your words. I have been working on that. I’ll be more conscious of that. Now that I know that you have a degree.
[00:03:43] But Austin, Texas that’s a really big mecca for triathlon actually. Karen Burk’s lives there also one of our teams there is tri club coaches so so cool. So Austin, Texas, how did you like living there.
[00:03:53] I absolutely loved it. I’ve got to be honest. Moving from Mexico to the States was not easy. I did not speak the language. I started college you know like not knowing what an essay was literally. So it took me a while to get through school but I did it and I am always super grateful for that. But actually it was while living in Austin, Texas that I discovered the sport of triathlon. So yeah it’s like an amazing place. So many great things to do and like you said it’s like the world of triathlon.
[00:04:30] So my favorite run, I don’t know if you know what we will know. It says it there’s a dirt trail that goes for like a one lap it’s like 10 kilometers or something. All around the river and it’s unreal. It just follows a river the whole way.
[00:04:42] Oh yea I think the one you’re talking about is Lady Bird Lake which they actually just build a bridge. You can do like a 12 mile my.
[00:04:51] No no you just extend OK.
[00:04:53] So I do not remember running that far.
[00:04:56] But yeah I was there a couple of months back and I was like well I was not here when I was leaving here. It is an amazing place to live.
[00:05:04] So 16 that’s pretty young. So did you have like an athletic background because you obviously are very fit. You’ve got an amazing physique so you must have had some sort of athletic background. What was your history in sport.
[00:05:15] So actually that’s that’s an interesting question because I’ve always been super energized and I always wanted to move to the states. But my mom would wear like no you’re going to say Mexico. And I would see the cheerleaders saying you know just like I was like I want to do something like I want to do a sport. But it was really never an option because my hometown was like I like to joke about it and say that I didn’t know that people ran for fun until I was like 18 or yeah.
[00:05:45] Like seriously.
[00:05:47] I mean not really but it’s just like sports. We’re not really a big thing in my hometown. So I did do gymnastics for a little bit but you know I try. Like basketball I was horrible at it. Like every sport I tried I was really bad. So honestly I would just you know just do the regular saw but I was never consistent with anything.
[00:06:08] Well it’s interesting because Marinda conferee was a basketball player. I was a basketballer and I feel like from basketball that natural movement I feel like it’s an advantage sometimes as a triathlete because we are so straight line swimming straight line blocking and running. If you grow up playing basketball and you probably haven’t had any injuries either which is interesting really never African age. I don’t think she’s ever had a really serious chronic injury and Cyrin are talking about it’s more like basketball like you said you were good at it. Maybe it’s good for you because that lateral movement which you don’t get in triathlon like I really feel like it helps a lot with Joseph soccer. He was a soccer player too. He’s never had an injury so I think that sort of translates to sometimes helping in the sport of triathlon with that. Growing up doing stuff like that so that’s really interesting.
[00:06:54] Yeah I mean I was never considered sane but I tried pretty much everything I tried baseball basketball soccer like a little bit of everything. But to be really honest with you. For me it was never like I never thought I could do more than you know and when I would see other people doing so was more the lack of knowledge and the lack of believing myself that held me back from going further in any sport because I’ve always had the energy. Like seriously like growing up like I was like What am I going to do with all this energy. And I was like always jumping and climbing trees and doing all the stuff but I never thought Oh I can use this energy. And actually you know to my benefit on his sport and be consistent with it.
[00:07:36] So that’s crazy because I know in Australia the culture is like you do like you play sport like this. We had compulsory sport for three hours a week sometimes longer and I love that like we do cross-country swimming athletics everything. It was a compulsory thing and then 9 Upson of kids some sort of sport. Sorry about that or some sort of sport I’m off to school as well. So it’s a culture with you guys like that you didn’t really have that in schools or I would absolutely say that.
[00:08:06] But it’s changing the law. It’s like if I go back to my hometown now like you see that people are doing five K’s 10 K’s 21 cake which is like amazing but when I was growing up that was not a thing. So yeah I know. So I am like super happy. Like going back and seeing that people are getting more into the sport like triathlon has grown so much in Mexico now. It didn’t used to be a big thing but yeah I mean going back growing up I would always like since I grew up in the border I would go to the states and be like That’s amazing like people can actually make a living and enjoy like you know like the talent that they were born with or that they worked for with a sport you know. So it was always interesting to me but again I do say it’s it was like a lot of like the cultural background and yeah that’s really interesting because yet triathlon is big in South America now and Mexico and Troy Romero one of ours we coach who is an incredible athlete who will be turning pro this year I assume because he’s doing great. He’s from Mexico and has a lot of really top Mexican athletes. I didn’t understand that that just wasn’t something you did at school so that’s great that there is time to do that because it’s always been a huge thing in Australia for kids at school that’s just part of the culture. So so then let me that brings me to the next part of the question will be did you see a triathlon like I know Siri she saw this triathlon and she’s told her story made tons of amazing shows like there big people there was African-Americans there was like 80 year old 30 year olds 10 year olds there was all shapes all sizes all nationalities and I now all had this smile on their face. And I was so excited to be out there. And is that what you sort of that was your experience.
[00:09:46] Like seriously when I heard Siri’s story I was like that story. That is exactly my sort of which was like so crazy.
[00:09:54] So this story begins when we were living in Austin Texas like I said before I discovered the sport of triathlon at age 20.
[00:10:02] So you know starting with Siri was 20 23 is so good you couldn’t swim either.
[00:10:10] You know like I said like I did all sorts of sports growing up so I did take swimming classes but really I don’t even remember using bubbles.
[00:10:18] So did you did a swan like Siri with your head above the water of the swim swim.
[00:10:22] That’s how she learned or it.
[00:10:24] I mean I did take swim classes growing up but it was never never like in a competitive level. So it was different. And running was never part of my life cycling. You know like I would in Mexico I would like go out on my bike with like the two wheels on the back.
[00:10:41] The training wheels. So yeah definitely triathlon was like not on my athletic background but it was actually quite interesting because my sister in law.
[00:10:52] Told my now husband oh do you want to do a triathlon and he’s like what’s that. And she explained to him and he’s like Yeah I’ll do it. We were like super out of shape like we would go out every weekend like it was like you know like a rule like we have to go love it we love drinking partying and you know all this stuff I had a lot of fun growing up. I have to say so. I remember it was the Capitec strike in Ohio. It’s too extreme. And it was a sprint triathlon. So I’m walking there and I’m looking at all these people and I’m like What is wrong with that.
[00:11:33] So guys yeah I know. And I’m like why do people pay for this.
[00:11:37] Like I would see people you know like breathing hard and I was like I would never do something like this like never. And you know I continue to watch and then I started to see people. Crossing the finish line. And that’s where like Siri’s story and my story are so similar because it was a feeling I’ve never had before. It was just something new to me. I was like this it’s amazing to see how seeing so many people from different backgrounds and exactly like different ages like it didn’t matter they cross that finish line. Then I see my fiancé like crossing that finish line and I’m like no freaking way. By the way he did this on a mountain bike.
[00:12:20] Oh that’s amazing. Did he look excited that he was pumped.
[00:12:23] He was very excited. He was like oh yeah that was fun. Like he used to be a smoker. So you know like he even did it like with but I don’t know how long. Yeah half a mug exactly. He likes to joke about it and say that when he was like swimming he lent a cigarette a cigarette and then just like someone with the other hand a lot bigger than that. But anyways he finished I was super inspired like he was like a shift on mindset right away. Well and I was like this is amazing like it is not about like that’s where I learned that it is about the sport. But at the same time it is about doing the things that are hard that you believe that are impossible but then you do. And he was like a big big inspiration. So the next day like seriously the next day I hopped on the treadmill and I started running and it started.
[00:13:13] Wow that’s crazy because that’s so interesting and that was a similar story to Siri really and that’s sort of the line without motto It’s not about swim bike run it’s about he become. And I heard so many stories like this. I mean I was completely different I had a really big athletic background. I was cross-country swimming athletics. But that’s a great story your husband was a smoker and we have guys now club that have lost like 120 pounds. One of my athletes this is an inspiration I think for anyone listening out there that has never done a triathlon. What would you advise him because some of us can do that an Ironman is crazy I mean I’m in it for me was say eight or nine hours but for some people it can be 16 hours.
So what would you say to the everyday person that’s terrified. And most of the fear is usually that they can’t swim. We can help you with that. What would your advice be. Because it does scare people to think about swimming running and running and for someone that’s never done one. What would your advice be.
[00:14:06] So for me I think it’s different for everyone. For me I like my personalities a lot like I started with shorter distances like sprint. So I said we’re shorter just there is yeah there is such thing so I remember we would do all these races and he would be pool swimming. So it was not like OK someone like that is very intimidating. And I mean I was super scared like to this day I’m not going to say like Eissler get a little more nervous when I get over water swimming. But what I would say is start small because I feel like a lot of people just like what. From one day to another say I’m going to do an Ironman and that’s great. Like I truly believe that anyone can do it. Like I truly believe that anyone can do it. But it’s also important to understand that your body has to get ready. And I feel like the better prepared you are. The training is not only going to prepare your body but it’s going to prepare you mentally so that you can actually enjoy it because a lot of people get so you know in their minds about like the training that they forget about the journey the journey.
[00:15:13] Exactly. Yes that’s the great advice for people that don’t know though. We should probably tell them the distances because not everybody at the traffic listens to this so I didn’t know there was a shorter one than a sprint. So what distance was you guys looking out there. Well let us know we can send you links to races that are shorter than a sprint just as a sprint distance is usually 500 swim 20 k bike and 5 k run. Sometimes it can be a 750 swim 20 bike and 5 k run. So MC What was hit what was the short one.
[00:15:42] Honestly it was long ago that I don’t remember it was an Olympic pools so I would say it was about maybe 400 meter swim long but yeah it was like really short. I honestly don’t remember the distance since I would lie but it was really short and we did like 20 of those. So that build up my confidence to be like Yeah I agree we can. Out every week because that would actually be in San Antonio. OK. I got obsessed. And then my fiancé is like oh my god why did I ever do one now I can get you to not talk about it.
[00:16:20] So true is absolutely an obsession. I really feel like after the first one you are so hooked. And I know I’m an athlete to the same so guys. So the sprint distance which is not too daunting like 520 and five. Then there’s the Olympics which is one point five K swim 40 k bike 10k run then you can step up to a half time in which is one point nine case 110 90 K by 21 K ran then there is the Iron Man which is three point eight K-Swiss 180 KBI and forty two point two came marathon after a frickin’ 180 UK bike. So they go they are distances and anyone can do that as aim he said and I totally believe that too. I really really do. And at Team Sirius Tri Club. We do. Every single person like you can be a now you can be anyone I mean MC had never done a couple of triathlons but you really haven’t won much and now I look at her. I’m so proud because this girl is taken like I’m not kidding you she probably took one for 100 meters maybe two minutes when you came Siri like gullibly. And then the other day. High five. I think she came you know like a 1;27 or something like that which is insane. If I took 30 seconds off I would be winning an Olympic medal at the Olympics swimming. So that’s just how much you can improve like so quickly. Ok so next. Well I remember your little face turning up at this swim session and I love my wife for this.
[00:17:39] I love Siri for this because the way she chooses athletes like it cracks me up and for me who I coach mostly all age group is actually which I love because they’re just so grateful compared to your average professional. But MC is one of very few age group is that serious decided that she would say yes and take on she only has I think two or three so when Siri does take on an athlete I say oh I used to say to her now I know are better when I first began with them. Oh what. What made you choose them. And I used to I say how fast are they what races are they down. What have they won. And she’s like I don’t know. And I think wow like you need someone that can push really you need someone that can make podiums because that was what I was about about winning and podium. That was my identity back then five years ago. But then she was like No I love her energy I love her passion. I love her drive. She just seems to have the same values as us the same loves. And I was like OK. And it was the same with every asset that she’s chosen doesn’t really care about their ability it’s them as a person as a human being. And so I want to meet these girls so say Take it away. Tell us about how you got it how you got started with Siri and tips who has tried club.
[00:18:44] So that’s actually another very funny story. I remember driving to Boulder because I’m living in Denver now and I was sweating so much I was like I’m going to turn around. What am I doing. Like I was like really nervous. And the reason I’m sharing this it’s because I think that happens to a lot of people when you’re joining such an amazing team that has such amazing athletes. You become a little bit intimidated. So this is good. How did you hear about us. So I heard about you from the punk cult. Yeah. So it was the Tony Robbins podcast and it was actually really interesting because I was just looking for a triathlon team but I wanted something very specific. I wanted something out like first of all I wanted to be surrounded by like minded people and people that were going to challenge me but support me at the same time. So I wanted to get them comfortable like I was ready to get uncomfortable even though it was super scary. So yeah I was just like my search team online and then learning more about the team like when I started reading the description of the team I was like This is exactly what I need.
[00:19:54] I’m going to one second keep talking and has decided to crawl out the window here.
[00:20:00] So I remember driving to Boulder and I got there and like I was saying before I was really nervous you know. But just like Beck said at the beginning when I saw Siri like I really didn’t have any expectations. But it was as if I had known her my whole life. Like we clicked right away.
[00:20:25] She was like oh it’s like you’re ready to swim and swimming is like my baby and I’m like probably your worst legs too right. It was then. Exactly. So I was like OK I guess I’m just going to jump in there.
[00:20:41] But that’s what I love. Like I love the fact that you know it was not like think about it or it was just like dive right in there.
[00:20:49] So you didn’t look and go oh my God there’s Miranda Carfree as well I’d retired then. So you weren’t worried about me. Is there any cough Ray there is Ellie Salthouse. Oh my God there’s cause a. Like you were like. I love that sometimes if you don’t know the funniest or no for me if you don’t know their names it doesn’t bother you and I don’t.
[00:21:07] I found that even at some of the Tony Robbins events I’ve been to I’m sitting next to like Joe Gayby who is the founder of eBay. I know who it was and I’m glad I didn’t because I was so nervous I just talked to him like everyday human he was a great guy but you didn’t see me Tibbett at all which I loved. And I said I think Craig it was Craig Alexander that was there that day or one of the days maybe the next couple of weeks. And I said to emcee I’m sure it was you. Oh hi Crowley. And then a couple of kids that were in there knew of Crowi – Craig Alexander they were like oh Craig Alexander.
[00:21:35] And I said you know who that is and MCs like no I’m like why not just like three time world champion. But I love that because that means that you’re in it for the right reason.
[00:21:46] Like you didn’t care about who it was it was who people were. It was about the person not about what they achieved in the sport. So do you remember the swim session. I do. Let’s tell people what it was. Because I know it was hard because I know that every time you stopped to keep going MC.
[00:22:02] So I actually read the for the first couple of moments where we were like just like start swimming right away. And it was like no breathing right hypoxic. Yeah but it was just like for the half twenty five. No it was not 25 who was like half of that. And so it was like 12 strokes.
[00:22:20] So that’s OK that’s a little we can give that away. So that session guys. Yeah I love that one. And I don’t love it. I actually hate it but it’s really good. I think there is video out if you time you’re on your treading water right. Yes treading water and poor MC it probably never really tried before. So you treading water and you kicking, holding still like a start line deep water start and you could kick it and then you’re exploding like no breath that they made that was not there for a session. Like she was not that mean.
[00:22:48] But I remember that session. It was one of the first sessions and it was like I can’t breathe I can’t breathe. She’s like Well when you start breathing that’s when you stop. Like if you if you don’t get to the wall that’s when you stop. So I wanted to go to the wall is on like OK I know like you know just like not breathe. So like I said like since I joined it was all about like she didn’t care about who I was. She didn’t care like about like your results. Yeah exactly she cared about pushing me and getting the best out of me. I need was uncomfortable like super uncomfortable. I’m going to be really honest. But that is one of the biggest impacts I would say that being on the team has had on me just like bringing the best out of me learning to face my fears knowing that the fear is always going to be there it’s not about you know like put the fear on the back like no fear is going to be there. But you just got to do it anyway. And with this training something that I’ve noticed is that I’ve never felt before like going to school. I was a student you know I was the daughter I was a triathlete back then I would do all these things that I was always defined by the things I was doing. And joining the team really gave me a vision of I am Maricarmen doing these things.
[00:24:07] Yeah I am not a triathlete. Exactly.
[00:24:12] And it was like such an important shift in my mindset and it was really inspired by Siri and Bek because I mean I know their backgrounds and I know that they both work to create that talent that they have now and it was not something that was just like given to them because you know a lot of people are grown like grow up with you know like that background and both of them like to work for it. So for me it was like they understand me they understand what it is for me to you know sometimes be like frustrated to be like you know maybe you’re not seeing the progress that you want maybe you’re having difficulty in this area of your life. So they knew what I was going through. So they knew exactly how to help me. So for me that was that has been a huge huge impact because I feel connected and I feel you know just like they know exactly what they’re doing. And I’ve seen an improvement in every area of the sport like swim bike run and in my personal life just like you always like you guys always say is like be ostensibly you land you know just like give your best and all that. And like the training sessions are just my favorite. I like series like screaming in your ear like you could do this and she’s like super pumped all the time.
[00:25:31] And then when I’m training by myself I just remember all those things and I’m like I can do this and it might not be easy right now but it’s going to get me to where I want to be and it’s going to bring out this new person that you know I really do.
[00:25:46] Exactly. And you guys if you don’t follow Maricarmen Farias on Facebook you have to follow her because she is just her she is her fearless authentic self and her and Siri are actually very alike as they get along so well because I remember the first session I went to Siri she was like oh.
[00:26:03] Let’s go. So she’s screaming and dancing. She does this little dance if she does if I of the Ellen dance she looks like Ellen when she doesn’t. And I said to someone oh I love it but she’s not like this all the time is she like. Yes she really is. And then I get to marry this incredible woman and she really is like; that minute she crashes and burns at like 8 o’clock every night she’s out of it pretends she’s staying up for The Bachelor and I always have to rewind it like every two minutes.
[00:26:32] But that is her and I feel like it’s so great and we attract that in our squad and that’s why a lot about our club but let’s let’s talk to some people I think some of their biggest fears is the swim and is that fear of not being debris being drowned in the swim being swam over and Siri just threw you in there and started doing this hypoxic no breathing swimming. And what I know it does is we know why we do it and the reasons are if you guys don’t do it I think it can really help I’m not saying hold your breath 50 meters by these are little tips here to make sure you know we don’t want to be giving you CPR in the pool unless it’s my wife but you don’t want to be holding your breath a crazy period. But we do a lot of stuff when we jog inside tip we get. We do a lot of stuff what we do breathing every three five and seven for 150 meters. So it’s 50 meters breath every three. MC knows this one 50 made is break every five , 50 meters breath every seven and then you build the last 50 while you’re in a hypoxic state. So we also do want see what we’re talking about where you’re pushing off the wall and you’re just not breathing like at the start of a swim race that you have to train your body to be out to deal with that.
[00:27:39] Otherwise it comes to a race and there’s the best is out there. I know Luke Mackenzie he won’t be talking about this because he admitted he had that same anxiety in the swim where he was a freakin amazing swimmer. He could not get past anxiety and he actually had help working with that. I know he’s overcome it now but it happens to the best of the best guys. I had a Enroth and luckily we’d trained our bodies in training to do that to cope with it but him saying What would you say. So your fear is swimming for people out there that are just terrified of the water what do you think is some of the coping mechanisms you’d use during training sessions but mental strategies to to overcome that fear of swimming that is actually a great question because I know a lot of people struggle with that.
[00:28:21] And the first thing it’s obviously developing that fitness it is important like you do need that fitness and doing those drills is definitely going to help you. But then once you develop that fitness that obviously is going to take a little bit of time the mental strength. I think it’s 90 percent of it the 90 percent. When I am doing you know like hypoxic drill my mind would start to freak out my breathing like my mind starts to control my body. That makes sense. So my breathing starts to go super high and I like like he was like oh my god like I’m gonna die like all these thoughts start to control me. So I’ve realised that by doing those drills I’m able to if I am able to connect with my mind and shut of the thoughts that a fear of uncertainty like all of those like fear is actually able to call my breathing. I mean it’s still uncomfortable but you are actually able to overcome that just by first again taking care of the fitness and second taking care of the mind set which is a big big big part and just not getting frustrated like I remember we were doing session during the training camp and I was getting frustrated because people kept passing me and passing me and I was like you know if I focus on how frustrated I am what’s going to be my result or frustration. So I remember I was like I need to change my mindset like I am doing my best which is always key always ask yourself are you giving your best.
[00:29:56] And the idea is maybe you’re not having a great day and being honest and saying you know I’m not giving my best. It’s not bad. So ask yourself how can I give my best. Or maybe my body needs a break. So you know just like understanding that if you are on your mind saying I’m going to drown I’m going to drown or I’m going to need CPR you know like all of those negative things you know you might end up needing.
[00:30:20] Certainly true what you focus on is what you get. And I love that and I know that’s a big thing that Tony Robbins talks about too and it’s so true.
[00:30:27] I used to focus on on my back so my back’s on my back sore my back is going to be sore or like on the bike. So you just got used to joke about it don’t focus on it and I simply talk about it and it does it actually really works. And I know series mom whenever we feel like we’re getting sick she goes.
[00:30:43] Mind over matter. Mind over matter. I’m like No I’m really gonna start chest and my nose my head. It’s mind over matter.
[00:30:50] I’ve never been sick and I’m like oh my god. And it really it honestly works and I’ve just learnt to do that in all walks of life like oh everywhere in my sport and my professional life well but I do sport but don’t do travel anymore. But in my professional life my personal life. So I love that I love that you say it’s 90 percent like so I took your mind is trying to protect you but you’ve got to go back into your heart and think I’m really going to die doing this 50 Maida’s like. No probably not so you’ve got to talk to yourself. There’s a lot of talk. Exactly.
[00:31:20] I totally agree. And. Something just came to my mind that I want to share when I used to do triathlons years back. I remember that if I had a bad swim it was like I would just make excuses like oh my stomach was hurting or you know it was so windy like I would just like make excuses because I was pissed. So being pitch is like focusing on being paid is really my race. So I remember two years ago. And that’s another reason why I joined the team that it’s just like coming to my now. I did a race here in Colorado and I was having a horrible swim. Like really really bad. And my husband had asked for the day off so that he could drive me there. He was really excited. And you raise and I was going to quit. I was like I’m not going to finish this. This is I can’t breathe. So I started focusing on the negative. And then I was like I cannot do this. Like if I cannot do it for me today I’m going to do it for him just because you know I couldn’t find that motivation. So I started swimming and I was like I’m going to give the best on the bike.
[00:32:24] I was dying on the bike because I was pushing so hard during the run.
[00:32:29] I was like dying as well as because I wanted to make up for the time that I was swimming. Like literally I was swimming like on my back because I was like I can’t breathe like it was really bad and I hadn’t raised in like three years when I did a brace. So I remember I finished and I placed second.
[00:32:46] No. Why is that. So you heard every stories about championships that really probably will hurt a guys where she came out of the water. She was seriously dead last and her body was in the worst position she had to run while further. She wrote it would never happen these days. But she was an incredible athlete. She rode from like out of the swim last up to the front of the bike told me Keely Jones are you ready to Iran. And then when the hotel but nearly two minutes so they go. So that’s I think you’ve got to remember it doesn’t predict your race some of my race when I won the world to you when I won the Copenhagen the challenge race there the distance and I broke nine hours that day. I came out of the water and I stacked it on my bike crash my back the first corner in the wet slid out didn’t even look at my leg. There was no way I was going that way to pull out. I was in a lot of pain on the back. I remember and I remember going off the black Jodie’s follow who is an incredible athlete and I thought I’ve just got to get in front of her in the run and then I’ve got her and I passed her and she did not pulling on and winning the race. But it’s so true. Like anything can happen like especially when I’m in a longer race even a sprint though too. But you can have a bad swim and your race is not over.
[00:33:54] And I think that mindset needs to be checked trained to see redoes out in training and I know she does. Even without saying she will make you push through something and it’s not because she’s trying to hurt you or she thinks you physically Nayda it’s mental training and you can have like in the pool they can be like you said a bad day where your time is just crappy for you on that day. But she always says as long as you’re giving the best effort in that moment. Don’t look at the time it doesn’t matter. Exactly yeah. Yeah.
[00:34:20] So say I want to talk about your incredible experience and knowledge in nutrition and if you are willing to share I want to know why this is your passion so much as as well as triathlon. But usually it is because of a personal experience. But you have so much knowledge in nutrition and really good knowledge in G.I. issues and that chronic inflammation syndrome in your stomach issues and everything like that. Excuse me I’m not that knowledgeable on it. Tell me your history with nutrition why you got into it and I just love the expertise you have in that because guys you don’t know MC is our team nutritional now and her focus is obviously exercise nutrition and injured sport nutrition. So let’s talk a little bit about that.
[00:35:03] Yeah absolutely. So my passion for nutrition. Actually it’s very interesting because it’s well linked with triathlon. I started to get to gain interest at a very early age and it was really not the most healthy way to do it just because you know and it happens to a lot of people and I want to start by saying that what I really thought was the darkest time of my life and the worst thing that could happen to me has been my greatest gift because I can’t understand what people go through and I know that sometimes it’s very difficult to talk about it. But going back to the story I struggle a lot with like body image and I was just obsessed with food and I started learning a lot about food because I wanted to know. You know like is just going to make me gain weight. Is this going to make me you know this or that. So I actually got unhealthy obsession turned into something amazing. So when I started triathlon I realized that if I continue with this like bad habits I was never going to be able to. You know I was going to be healthy I was not going to be strong. So that’s when I realized that I needed to make a change and I actually gave up the sport for three years just because I had to take care of my health.
[00:36:24] I had a lot of issues with digestion and getting food that didn’t affect you know the feeling like you had a lot of trouble with but all of the foods you’re eating right you just had a little trouble getting basic getting it in.
[00:36:37] Yeah exactly. And everything started because I developed an eating disorder and it was very difficult just because for anyone who has struggle without you know it’s like you eat a lot of food and then you know you end up just like having all these feelings of guilt and over exercising just to burn those calories or doing whatever you have to do. You know like there’s so many things that you can do are very unhealthy for you. And I also realize the difference between fitness and health. Wow. I believe a lot of people get a performance in health. You can have a great performance and that does not mean you’re healthy on the inside. So my main focus is on helping people to still have that performance while taking care of their bodies. Because I personally don’t believe it’s worth had to be a world champion and then 10 years after struggling with your health like a lot of people go through that. So going through that personal experience allowed me to connect with my body and made me realize that it’s really not just about nutrition but it’s about the relationship that you have with your body with your mind and you just focus on one. There’s going to be on balance and you are going end up you know having some sort of disease and which is like super sad because for people who do triathlon you usually think of people that are healthy. You know they’re working out they’re spending all these hours so that they can become better.
[00:38:13] So why not find ways in which you can become the best that you can be physically from the inside out.
[00:38:19] I love that. And you know it even it resonates with me not to that extreme but I know people that have had the lemur and I know there are a lot of athletes whether they admit it or not have eating disorders. And it’s definitely so common for women. And for me I remember as a kid I was never believe me or anorexic but I do remember that I used to calorie count as a 16 17 18 year old for three years a calorie count. And I used to count the grams of fat that I ate because fat is bad. And I remember I was the cheapest I’ve ever made from cutting out fat because there’s a case. Let me ask you this because it’s so many things out there I’m saying not being listening to Chris Kresse or an incredible functional medicine expert that diet wasn’t even diet healthy eating but there is paleo. There’s Kito there’s high fat low fat high carb low carb oh my god it’s so freaking confusing. So I know everyone’s different but I’ve tried everything that is vegan and I’ve just realized it’s for me it’s come down to really balance. But it can be really more scientific approach to with the approach of that but eating food but what what would you say for everyday people out there. Let’s touch more on probably people that are more athletic or triathletes or someone who is exercising. What would you say a few key things to focus on with nutrition.
[00:39:36] Stop comparing yourself. I think that would be the first thing. So you see these like top athlete eating whatever bar they’re eating and they’re following this diet. And you go on fallow. You have to understand that everybody is different and the best way to know what works for you is to see how you feel. So that’s actually an amazing question but it’s pretty general because I can sit here and give you all these amazing tips. But then someone would try this and they would be like Oh it does didn’t work out for me. So maybe what she’s saying is wrong but in reality it is because for some people have they have a low fat diet. It would work amazing for them. For some people they have a low carb diet. We were great for them. So it’s really coming to the conclusion that you have to get to know your body. And the reason I say this it’s because I’ve been vegan vegetarian I’ve tried the ketogenic diet I’ve tried high protein I’ve tried like cleanses everything you can think of. And that’s actually again it was like horrible like going through all those diets and start being and bingeing and purging and all of those things. It made me realize that there is no such thing as a perfect diet. So when it comes to athletes I think you have to keep in mind that it’s not about feeding yourself but fueling yourself. Exactly so if you have a workout. I see a lot of people doing. I’m going to do these fasted workout doing fasted workout.
[00:41:04] It’s OK if the intensity is going to be low. And for regular people yeah. But I truly believe that if you are an athlete you have to feel your body.
[00:41:13] I totally agree. I mean I hear like the big greenfield. I’m not mocking him because he usually is dressing more like your everyday person weekend morea not sort of a professional athlete or an endurance athlete. I like the idea of fasting because I think recovery is going to be a lot worse. They could struggle through their session. I’d really agree with you there. I mean if you’re just trying to lose weight and you have a really serious white issue then maybe every now and then it’s good for you.
[00:41:36] But I definitely wouldn’t advise that. OK. So let’s just let’s just say everyday person say there are a half I’m an athlete have no idea about nutrition. They don’t know what to eat at all. What would just be something. In general if you could just give them a few common tips for the everyday person to have for breakfast lunch and dinner.
[00:41:55] Oh that’s a great question. So I would definitely say you have to make sure you are eating a balanced diet and there’s something interesting when it comes to for example pre workout for pre workout you always have to focus on digestion. What is going to take the least time to digest and have your food empty stomach. So for that I personally recommend that you have something that’s going to be absorbed fast. I like to have dates figs. I that’s for carbohydrates. And then a type of fad that I really like that’s very easily digested is M.S. oil and a lot of people would tell you know Gjoni fad before a workout because he takes a lot of time to digest. But with NCT is very different to just have to make sure you get the one that has the seats.
[00:42:47] I don’t really go into detail but that’s going to be easily absorbed. So just look for that on the label and then you also want to add some protein there. I personally recommend hydrolyzed protein which is pre-digested protein. Again just because it’s going to be gentle on your stomach.
[00:43:05] So talking about that where would you get that from our brand that you recommend.
[00:43:09] There is a brand that’s called Deep 30. That’s pretty good but just if you google hydrolyzed protein you’re going to find a lot of different good brands and usually when it’s hydrolyzed it’s going to be a good source and it’s plant base store it doesn’t have to be but it can be. I left the plant. Yeah. Yeah. And again I mean some people do okay with dairy. Some other people don’t do so well but for pre work out I usually recommend that you would do something like plant based.
[00:43:37] You know what about post when I have a lot of people ask me this and they said to me I’ve just done like a 45 minute run or I to say well you know if you’ve already eaten breakfast it’s not that important keep hydrating but you don’t. Maybe a banana or something. But say they don’t like it two three even five hour session. Let’s say a three hour session to make it specific. What would you recommend someone just on a three hour preheated bike session. What would you recommend them having after that.
[00:44:02] So afterwards also you want to make sure you are having something that’s balanced and that’s also going to be absorb fast. I recommend that if you’re done with a workout try not to have a big meal after work. Because you’ve got to understand that your body is going through all this like process of rebuilding and all of that. So if you eat a lot then all that energy is going to go into digestion and then you also want to take care of recovery. Wow. So I personally recommend that you eat a snack right before your workout that has carbohydrates a lot of people are like oh I don’t need carbs because I just finished my workout. Like no you do need carbohydrates. And here’s the thing guys there is like this battle against carbohydrates right now and sugar is a big big addiction. But here’s the thing. Just focus on good carbs. You know what are some good cops so good carbohydrates are you know like sweet potatoes are great a great great source. Taro yam white potato is also good. And again you have to see how it’s working for you and I not going to go into the whole argument of gluten free. But it’s also important to understand that gluten contains a protein protein that causes inflammation. It doesn’t matter if you are. Intolerant like gluten intolerant. It is going to cause inflammation like it doesn’t matter for some people is worse than others but that’s what carbohydrates do they cause inflammation and it’s something that you cannot cannot avoid.
[00:45:32] You know but when you go to healthier types of carbohydrate so you can have bread. It’s OK so if you want to have like a bagel bread whatever is it that you want to have and you want to lower that inflammation. I do recommend that you go free.
[00:45:47] I totally agree. I used to find that when I ever ate bread I wonder why I was so gaseous like burping all the time my body going Hello this is not I’m not enjoying this. My stomach doesn’t like this so I definitely have gluten free. I know a lot of athletes do that now as well because the inflammation but it kind of scares me that there’s just really no Lillah education out there with all these chronic diseases. And this is where a lot of like people are criss cross or functional medicine experts where they chronic disease. 99 percent of the Auri I think he says 90 percent of it is caused by this awful Western diet that we have. So it all America seems to do is just medicate, medicate, medicate when a lot of it can be treated by can eating oil and like a good healthy diet. So what would you recommend. So I know this is really general as well. But people some athletes have a lot of G.I. issues and it’s common I had it too like just trying to get that food in a race under that extreme intensity. Is there anything that you think they can trial or obviously training with practicing whether it has anything you can recommend that you would know that would probably be absorbed a little bit better and not cause so much stress. Say you know rice under huge stress in Ironman seventy point three of them.
[00:46:56] Yeah so totally. So here’s the first thing. If you are following a certain lifestyle that’s working for you don’t worry about having to change anything that would be my first thing because then some people are like oh I just learned that this is like that for me. So I’m going to stop doing it. So again you have to listen to your body first. But I do recommend that overall you include obviously lots of vegetables in your diet and don’t overdo it on the fruits though because I know we were always told like fruits and vegetables fruits and vegetables. But I would say vegetables and fruits right because fruits are amazing for you. But they also have a lot of sugar so a lot of people overdo those. In my personal opinion also including foods that are fermented. Those are like amazing for your god like sauerkraut, kimchi. Those are all great options. Bone broth it’s another great source of antioxidants that’s going to allow you to reduce inflammation in your god because honestly most of the athletes I’ve talked to struggle with got stress and just because of this overload of sugar that they have for every drink every day training. So you can make some changes like I was saying before like instead of having regular bread just change your gluten free bread instead of having you know gels that have like so much sugar. Look for gels that are lower sugar maybe try liquid hydration and like there’s so many products out there that are going to be gentle on your stomach.
[00:48:26] And also understanding that just because someone else is drinking something that works for them eat might not work for you.
[00:48:35] So definitely focusing on a low inflammation diet which is going to be a little bit lower on fiber which is actually quite interesting. But when it comes to vegetables they’re actually very high in fiber. So I personally don’t recommend that you have a lot of vegetables before race or before a workout and that’s really not common sense.
[00:48:54] There’s a lot of people would be like I’m going to have you know a story about that because I know if it was a joke Leandy OK. I don’t know if she’s going listen it’s hilarious. She was told before Hawaii and it was Cotoner and someone gave a nutrition advice. But it was it was kind of a competitor competitive coach she’s like to eat heaps and heaps of fiber night before like heaps and heaps of fiber and Sera’s I don’t know why they would say that like this not a good idea. And she had the worst got issues at Rice. Obviously these athletes don’t know. I mean I was I ended up using which is probably just goes a little bit against what we’re talking about but I was using like a combo pro which is like PUA like multi Dextre I think and I never had issues with that. I used to eat the little goo chomp so good jilt do choose. They worked really well and it is very different on rice day because you can’t have sweet potatoes and you can’t know what it means. It’s a really on rice. I know that your energy gels that are a combination but a little bit of fat and they’re like a fruit type thing. And I know Troy ate like almond butter. Yeah. And it’s like a gentleman butter and I know there’s a lot of stuff like the honey stingers and stuff that are coming out that’s a little better on the stump. But it is really hard on rice day to get the right nutrition.
[00:50:04] Maybe we need to design something and say because it’s hard to get that out there’s nothing out there you just go have a sweet potato like your right racing. So yeah you’ve just got it it’s honestly trial and error and doing it and training everything like that. But you guys I’m I’m so excited to have you on the on the podcast today and if you guys want to learn more about Maricarmen. Maricarmen is my nutrition she actually has her own podcast now called Sound Bites with WiSP Sports. So thank you. MC Is there anything else you want to add for anyone.
[00:50:34] No I just want to thank you again for having me today. And yeah you guys have any questions feel free to send me a message or be on Facebook. You can find me by typing Maricarmen theory as a spell that for us. So that’s Maricarmen I have a very long name and the last name is for real. So that’s at our I am awesome and safe.
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